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      Necessary Conversations: Understanding Racism as a Barrier to Achieving Health Equity

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      We need to talk about race.

      The story of our nation is one of justice and freedom, but the unspoken truth is too many people are shut out of equal opportunities because of the color of their skin. Civil Rights laws and advocacy movements have brought racial inequities to light, but have not solved urgent problems caused by structural racism. This inequity has led to wide-scale poorer health outcomes and shorter life spans.

      Structural racism refers to the persistence of inequity in communities of color while others benefit from a disproportionately larger share of the nation’s resources. There is indisputable evidence that the impacts of this inequity are generational. Structural racism has led to a lack of basic healthcare, education, housing, and other needs for too many in our nation.

      Authentic conversations about racial inequities are essential, difficult, and urgent. There are many forces that prevent people from talking about racism. Without honest reflections on race and the history of this nation, conversation and narratives often generate unproductive fear, shame, guilt, avoidance, and denial. We need to move past that to a place of healing and action. A book by RWJF’s chief science officer, Dr. Alonzo Plough, shows us how.

      Editor's Note: We incorrectly named the Central Park bird watcher George Cooper. His name is Christian Cooper.

      Live Webinar—Book Talk: Necessary Conversations

      Participants joined Dr. Alonzo Plough as he modeled how to talk about structural racism. The webinar offered insight into health equity as the operational focus on the Foundation’s work. Watch the webinar recording to understand how:

      • RWJF is embracing new research and evaluation strategies to measure solutions
      • Important it is to elevate the importance of narrative change
      • To create space for those with lived experiences to drive decision making

      This webinar will be available in Spanish and English, and will be recorded for on-demand use through RWJF’s Communications Toolbox.

      From the Blog

      Necessary Conversations: Talking Frankly About Race

      Engaging in honest dialogue about race sometimes means lowering our defenses and acknowledging our feelings so we can walk together toward racial equity.

      Read blog post by Dr. Plough

      Necessary Conversations: Understanding Racism as a Barrier to Advancing Health Equity is edited by Alonzo L. Plough, PhD, MPH, VP, Research-Evaluation-Learning and Chief Science Officer, Robert Wood Johnson Foundation.

      The book, published by Oxford University Press, features a diverse set of voices, including Nikole Hannah-Jones, a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist, Derrick Johnson, president and CEO of NAACP, Crystal Echo Hawk of IllumiNative, Gail Christopher, executive director, National Collaborative for Health Equity, among many other esteemed thinkers and doers.

      Dolores Acevedo-Garcia, PhD, Professor of Human Development and Social Policy
      Director, Institute for Child, Youth and Family Policy, Heller School for Social Policy and Management, Brandeis University

      Shana Bartley, MSPH, Director of Community Partnerships, Income Security and Child Care/Early Learning, National Women’s Law Center

      Susan Beane, MD, Executive Medical Director, Healthfirst

      Robert D. Bullard, PhD, Distinguished Professor of Urban Planning and Environmental Policy and Director of Bullard Center for Environmental and Climate Justice Barbara Jordan-Mickey Leland School of Public Affairs, Texas Southern University

      Beneta D. Burt, MPPA, President and CEO, Mississippi Urban League, Inc.

      Nakeitra Burse, DrPH, CHES, CEO, Six Dimensions, LLC

      Juan Cartagena, President and General Counsel, LatinoJustice

      Ronda Lee Chapman, Director of Equity, The Trust for Public Land; former Senior Associate, PolicyLink

      Shelby Chestnut, MS, Director of Policy and Programs, Transgender Law Center

      Gail C. Christopher, DN, Executive Director, National Collaborative for Health Equity (NCHE); Founder of Ntianu Garden: Center for Healing and Nature; Senior Scholar, Center for the Advancement of Well-Being, George Mason University

      Joia Crear-Perry, MD, FACOG, Founder & President, National Birth Equity Collaborative

      Byron D’Andra Orey, PhD, Professor of Political Science, Jackson State University

      Jara Dean-Coffey, MPH, Founder and Director, Equitable Evaluation Initiative; Founder and Principal, Luminare Group

      Crystal Echo Hawk, MA, Executive Director, IllumiNative

      An educator who requested anonymity, An American Public School District

      Madeline England, MIA, Former Community Health Director, Mississippi State Department of Health

      Sherry Glied, PhD, Dean, Professor of Public Service, Robert F. Wagner Graduate School of Public Service, New York University

      Solomon Greene, JD, MCP, Senior Fellow, Research to Action Lab and Metropolitan Housing and Communities Policy Center, Urban Institute

      Derek M. Griffith, PhD, Co-Founder and Director, Racial Justice Institute; Founder and Director, Center for Men’s Health Equity; Professor of Health Systems Administration and Oncology, Georgetown University

      Jennifer Gunter, PhD, Director, South Carolina Collaborative on Race, University of South Carolina

      Charon Gwynn, PhD, Deputy Commissioner, Division of Epidemiology, New York City Department of Health and Mental Hygiene

      Mark Hall, JD, Director of Health Law and Policy Program, Professor of Law, Wake Forest University

      Iyanrick John, JD, MPH, Adjunct Professor, California State University, East Bay

      Nikole Hannah-Jones, MA, Domestic correspondent, The New York Times

      Derrick Johnson, JD, President and Chief Executive Officer, NAACP

      Cristy Johnston Limón, MBA, Former Executive Director, Youth Speaks

      Alesha Judkins, Mississippi State Director, Criminal Justice Reform, FWD.us

      Pamela Junior, Executive Director, Two Museums Mississippi

      Chris M. Kabel, Senior Fellow, The Kresge Foundation

      Donna Ladd, Founding Editor, Mississippi Free Press and Jackson Free Press

      Nsombi Lambright-Haynes, MPPA, Executive Director, One Voice

      Alana M.W. LeBrón, PhD, Assistant Professor, Department of Health, Society, and Behavior, Program in Public Health and Department of Chicano/Latino Studies, School of Social Sciences, University of California, Irvine

      Rukia Lumumba, JD, Founding Executive Director, People’s Advocacy Institute and Electoral Justice CoDirector, Movement for Black Lives

      Nyiesha Mallett, Climate Justice Youth Organizer, UPROSE

      Demetria McCain, Esq., President, Inclusive Communities Project

      Donna M. Mertens, PhD, Transformative Research and Evaluation; Professor Emeritus, Gallaudet University

      Milena A. Melo, PhD, Assistant Professor, Department of Anthropology, University of Texas Rio Grande Valley

      Nick Mitchell-Bennett, MA, Executive Director, come dream. come build.

      Sean Morales-Doyle, JD, Deputy Director, Voting Rights & Elections, Brennan Center for Justice at New York University School of Law

      Julie Morita, MD, Executive Vice President, Robert Wood Johnson Foundation

      Alfredo Ortiz Aragón, PhD, Associate Professor, Dreeben School of Education, University of the Incarnate Word

      Mariana Osoria, MA, Senior Vice President, Partnerships & Engagement, Family Focus

      Jackie Qataliña Schaeffer, Senior Project Manager, Alaska Native Tribal Health Consortium

      Jason Reece, PhD, Assistant Professor, City and Regional Planning, Ohio State University

      Residents of Cicero, Illinois

      Ed Sivak, Executive Vice President of Policy and Communications, Hope Enterprise Corporation/HOPE Credit Union (HOPE)

      Linda Villarosa, MA, Assistant Professor of Media Communication & Arts and Black Studies at the City College of New York and contributing writer to The New York Times Magazine

      Geoff K. Ward, PhD, Professor of African and African-American Studies, Washington University in St. Louis

      Teneasha Washington, PhD, MPH, Assistant Professor, Health Behavior, School of Public Health, University of Alabama at Birmingham

      Jamal R. Watkins, Senior Vice President for Strategy and Advancement, NAACP

      Primus Wheeler, MS, Executive Director, Jackson Medical Mall Foundation

      Thea Williams-Black, PhD, Founder and CEO, GEMS: Growing Educational Minds for Success Consulting LLC and Former Dean of Education, Supervision, and Instruction / Professor of Education, Tougaloo College

      Necessary Conversations

      Dolores Acevedo-Garcia, PhD, Professor of Human Development and Social Policy
      Director, Institute for Child, Youth and Family Policy, Heller School for Social Policy and Management, Brandeis University

      Shana Bartley, MSPH, Director of Community Partnerships, Income Security and Child Care/Early Learning, National Women’s Law Center

      Susan Beane, MD, Executive Medical Director, Healthfirst

      Robert D. Bullard, PhD, Distinguished Professor of Urban Planning and Environmental Policy and Director of Bullard Center for Environmental and Climate Justice Barbara Jordan-Mickey Leland School of Public Affairs, Texas Southern University

      Beneta D. Burt, MPPA, President and CEO, Mississippi Urban League, Inc.

      Nakeitra Burse, DrPH, CHES, CEO, Six Dimensions, LLC

      Juan Cartagena, President and General Counsel, LatinoJustice

      Ronda Lee Chapman, Director of Equity, The Trust for Public Land; former Senior Associate, PolicyLink

      Shelby Chestnut, MS, Director of Policy and Programs, Transgender Law Center

      Gail C. Christopher, DN, Executive Director, National Collaborative for Health Equity (NCHE); Founder of Ntianu Garden: Center for Healing and Nature; Senior Scholar, Center for the Advancement of Well-Being, George Mason University

      Joia Crear-Perry, MD, FACOG, Founder & President, National Birth Equity Collaborative

      Byron D’Andra Orey, PhD, Professor of Political Science, Jackson State University

      Jara Dean-Coffey, MPH, Founder and Director, Equitable Evaluation Initiative; Founder and Principal, Luminare Group

      Crystal Echo Hawk, MA, Executive Director, IllumiNative

      An educator who requested anonymity, An American Public School District

      Madeline England, MIA, Former Community Health Director, Mississippi State Department of Health

      Sherry Glied, PhD, Dean, Professor of Public Service, Robert F. Wagner Graduate School of Public Service, New York University

      Solomon Greene, JD, MCP, Senior Fellow, Research to Action Lab and Metropolitan Housing and Communities Policy Center, Urban Institute

      Derek M. Griffith, PhD, Co-Founder and Director, Racial Justice Institute; Founder and Director, Center for Men’s Health Equity; Professor of Health Systems Administration and Oncology, Georgetown University

      Jennifer Gunter, PhD, Director, South Carolina Collaborative on Race, University of South Carolina

      Charon Gwynn, PhD, Deputy Commissioner, Division of Epidemiology, New York City Department of Health and Mental Hygiene

      Mark Hall, JD, Director of Health Law and Policy Program, Professor of Law, Wake Forest University

      Iyanrick John, JD, MPH, Adjunct Professor, California State University, East Bay

      Nikole Hannah-Jones, MA, Domestic correspondent, The New York Times

      Derrick Johnson, JD, President and Chief Executive Officer, NAACP

      Cristy Johnston Limón, MBA, Former Executive Director, Youth Speaks

      Alesha Judkins, Mississippi State Director, Criminal Justice Reform, FWD.us

      Pamela Junior, Executive Director, Two Museums Mississippi

      Chris M. Kabel, Senior Fellow, The Kresge Foundation

      Donna Ladd, Founding Editor, Mississippi Free Press and Jackson Free Press

      Nsombi Lambright-Haynes, MPPA, Executive Director, One Voice

      Alana M.W. LeBrón, PhD, Assistant Professor, Department of Health, Society, and Behavior, Program in Public Health and Department of Chicano/Latino Studies, School of Social Sciences, University of California, Irvine

      Rukia Lumumba, JD, Founding Executive Director, People’s Advocacy Institute and Electoral Justice CoDirector, Movement for Black Lives

      Nyiesha Mallett, Climate Justice Youth Organizer, UPROSE

      Demetria McCain, Esq., President, Inclusive Communities Project

      Donna M. Mertens, PhD, Transformative Research and Evaluation; Professor Emeritus, Gallaudet University

      Milena A. Melo, PhD, Assistant Professor, Department of Anthropology, University of Texas Rio Grande Valley

      Nick Mitchell-Bennett, MA, Executive Director, come dream. come build.

      Sean Morales-Doyle, JD, Deputy Director, Voting Rights & Elections, Brennan Center for Justice at New York University School of Law

      Julie Morita, MD, Executive Vice President, Robert Wood Johnson Foundation

      Alfredo Ortiz Aragón, PhD, Associate Professor, Dreeben School of Education, University of the Incarnate Word

      Mariana Osoria, MA, Senior Vice President, Partnerships & Engagement, Family Focus

      Jackie Qataliña Schaeffer, Senior Project Manager, Alaska Native Tribal Health Consortium

      Jason Reece, PhD, Assistant Professor, City and Regional Planning, Ohio State University

      Residents of Cicero, Illinois

      Ed Sivak, Executive Vice President of Policy and Communications, Hope Enterprise Corporation/HOPE Credit Union (HOPE)

      Linda Villarosa, MA, Assistant Professor of Media Communication & Arts and Black Studies at the City College of New York and contributing writer to The New York Times Magazine

      Geoff K. Ward, PhD, Professor of African and African-American Studies, Washington University in St. Louis

      Teneasha Washington, PhD, MPH, Assistant Professor, Health Behavior, School of Public Health, University of Alabama at Birmingham

      Jamal R. Watkins, Senior Vice President for Strategy and Advancement, NAACP

      Primus Wheeler, MS, Executive Director, Jackson Medical Mall Foundation

      Thea Williams-Black, PhD, Founder and CEO, GEMS: Growing Educational Minds for Success Consulting LLC and Former Dean of Education, Supervision, and Instruction / Professor of Education, Tougaloo College

      This book is organized in three sections:

      Reckoning with racism offers a cohesive framework for recognizing and redressing structural racism. Only by exposing racial hierarchy for what it is—deeply embedded systems and structures that position some people as inherently more valuable than others—can we clear a path for equity.

      Chapter 1—Racial Hierarchy, Race Narrative, and the Structures that Sustain Them
      Chapter 2—Beyond the Black/White Binary: Confronting Invisibility and the Harms of “Othering”
      Chapter 3—Keeping it Real: Pathways to Authentic Connections

      The harms of racial injustice examine ways people of color are affected by inequity and its accompanying harms. Data and stories bring comparable revelations—from the Black maternal mortality crises to the incarceration epidemic to challenges faced by immigrants, and the dangers that climate change pose—these realities speak to the urgency of dismantling discriminatory systems.

      Chapter 4—Structural Racism in Black Maternal Healthcare
      Chapter 5—The Health Harms of Incarceration and Punishment
      Chapter 6—Immigrant Health: Inequity and Fear
      Chapter 7—Climate Crisis, Environmental Justice, and Racial Justice

      Strategies to advance health equity suggests what is possible when we acknowledge and learn from the past, embrace new research and evaluation strategies to measure solutions, elevate the importance of narrative change, and create space for those with lived experiences to drive decisionmaking.

      Chapter 8—Learning the Lessons of History
      Chapter 9—Fair Housing, Equitable Communities
      Chapter 10—Transforming Research and Evaluation
      Chapter 11—Racial Justice Through Civic Engagement: A Look at Voting and the Census

      Other books in the series include:

      Knowledge to Action: Accelerating Progress in Health, Well-Being, and Equity

      Featuring prominent voices from diverse sectors, Knowledge to Action is a collection of essays that explores how the United States can meaningfully improve the health and well-being of all its people.

      1-min read

      Health Disparities

      Advancing Health and Well-Being: Using Evidence and Collaboration to Achieve Health Equity

      Advancing Health and Well-Being is the second in RWJF's Culture of Health series, spanning a broad range of topics related to current public discourse, including the role of place, race, opportunity and class in health and well-being.

      1-min read

      Public and Community Health

      Well-Being: Expanding the Definition of Progress

      A group of leading practitioners, researchers and innovators from 19 countries share global insights on advancing well-being to inform U.S. approaches.

      4-min read

      Disease Prevention and Health Promotion

      Culture of Health in Practice: Innovations in Research, Community Engagement, and Action

      This book weaves together research findings and narratives, and makes the case that a commitment to health equity is fundamental to building a Culture of Health.

      1-min read

      Health Disparities

      Community Resilience: Innovation, Engagement, and Equity

      A rich body of research findings, enlivened by stories of lived experience, reflect on the forces that nurture resilience and promote health equity.

      1-min read

      Health Disparities

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